Lean Enterprise Institute Logo
  • Contact Us
  • Newsletter Signup
  • Cart (78)
  • Account
  • Search
Lean Enterprise Institute Logo
  • Explore Lean
        • What is Lean?
        • The Lean Transformation Framework
        • A Brief History of Lean
        • Lexicon Terms
        • Topics to explore
          • Operations
          • Lean Product & Process Development
          • Administration & Support
          • Problem-Solving
          • Coaching
          • Executive Leadership
          • Line Management
  • The Lean Post
        • Subscribe to see exclusive content
          • Subscribe
        • Featured posts
          Ask Art: Why Do People Reject Proof that Lean Works?

          Lean Product and Process Development at Scale:...

          craftsmanship

          Pursuing Perfection: Craftsmanship in Product Development

          • See all Posts
  • Events & Courses
        • Forms and Templates
        • Featured learning
          • The Future of People at Work Symposium 

            July 18, 2024 | Detroit, Michigan

          • Hoshin Kanri

            September 06, 2024 | Coach-Led Online Course

          • Lean Warehousing and Distribution Operations

            September 11, 2024 | Plant City, Florida and Gainesville, Florida

          • Key Concepts of Lean Management

            September 16, 2024 | Coach-Led Online Course

          • See all Events
  • Training & Consulting for Organizations​
        • Interested in exploring a partnership with us?
          • Schedule a Call
        • Getting Started
        • Leadership Development
        • Custom Training
        • Enterprise Transformation​
  • Store
        • Book Ordering Information
        • Shopping Cart
        • Featured books
          Managing to Learn: Using the A3 management process

          Managing to Learn: Using the A3 management process

          A3 Getting Started Guide 2

          A3 Getting Started Guide

          • See all Books
  • About Us
        • Our people
          • Senior Advisors and Staff
          • Faculty
          • Board of Directors
        • Contact Us
        • Lean Global Network
        • Press Releases
        • In the News
        • Careers
        • About us

The Lean Post / Articles / Ask Art: Why Do People Reject Proof that Lean Works?

Ask Art: Why Do People Reject Proof that Lean Works?

Ask Art: Why Do People Reject Proof that Lean Works?

By Art Byrne

June 11, 2018

Despite compelling proof, most people will find a way to doubt the power of lean to improve their particular work, shares Art Byrne, who argues that it is critical to press forward despite this natural and inevitably resistance.

FacebookTweetLinkedInPrintComment

I guess the simplest answer here is that old habits die hard. When you take people out of their comfort zone they tend to fight hard to get back to what they know. I suppose a touch of the “not invented here” syndrome also plays a role.

Back when I was a Group Executive at The Danaher Company we started using The Shingijutsu Company as our lean consultants. These were four individuals who had spent their whole careers at Toyota and had worked directly for Taiichi Ohno, the father of the Toyota Production System implementing TPS in the Toyota Group Companies and in Toyota’s first tier suppliers. We were their first and only client in the US, and focused our initial efforts on a couple of companies in my Group. Jacobs Engine Brake, or “Jake Brake”, led by George Koenigsaecker took the lead and produced great results.

George and I both had strategic planning backgrounds and from the very beginning we saw TPS/Lean as the greatest strategic weapon a company could have. One day at lunch we asked the President of Shingijutsu, Mr. Iwata, how Toyota could let them loose (Ohno had pushed them to leave Toyota and form Shingijutsu) to teach other companies this amazing system. He looked at us and just laughed. “Look, I can tell you about TPS, I can even take you and show you TPS, but I bet you can’t go home and do it,” he said. To this day this is one of the most insightful comments about lean I have ever heard. I can show you but you still won’t be able to do it. Over the years I have seen many examples of this.

One of my other Group companies at Danaher, Holocrome Corporation, made bolts on machines known as cold headers. These machines took a long time to change over. This in fact was one of the company’s biggest problems. We organized a kaizen to reduce the setup time. The company set a target of going from 2 hours to one hour by the end of the week. Our Japanese consultant rejected this at the kick-off meeting and said “no, it must be under 10 minutes.” Everyone thought this was just crazy.

On Friday, however, we stopped production and had all the cold header operators come and watch the results of the kaizen. The set up was done in one minute. We did it several times so they could see how it was done. At the end of the demonstration two operators near me headed back to work and one said to the other, “what did you think of that?” His buddy replied, “well, that was interesting, but I bet they couldn’t do that on my machine.” The machines of course were basically all the same so here was a great example of someone seeing something with their own eyes and still rejecting it.

Another similar example occurred when I was CEO of The Wiremold Company. AME had asked if we could make a presentation at their annual conference. We decided to tell the story of how we reduced the setup time of a 150 ton, coil fed press with a large progressive die from 3 hours and 10 minutes to 1 minute. As most of the key ideas came from our operators, Jose and Carlos, we wanted to have them give a big part of the presentation. They were both from Portugal, had strong accents and have never spoken before 500+ people almost all of whom had college degrees and were engineers and managers. They were understandably pretty reluctant. We coached them through it and they explained the step by step changes that were made. At the end, Carlos, who was the last presenter, showed a film of the one minute changeover. The first question/comment from the audience was, “gee Carlos, you were going awfully fast in that video.” Of course what he was really saying was, I don’t have anyone in my plant that will move that fast so I guess I can go home and ignore the fact that I saw that it is possible to reduce a setup from 3 hours and 10 minutes to one minute. Carlos just looked at him like he was completely out of his mind and then gave the perfect response, “but only for a minute.” My guess was that most of the rest of the audience reacted the same way as the guy who commented. They saw it, didn’t believe it and went home and did nothing.

Another example from my time at Wiremold occurred in our plastic operation. Our bank asked if we could discuss lean with another one of the companies they lent money to and perhaps show them some examples. It turned out that this company had the same size injection molding equipment that we did, purchased from the same vendor. We showed them a 2 minute mold change that had previously taken two and a half hours. We did it several times. On the way back to the conference room the CEO, who was standing right in front of me, said to his VP of Operations, “what did you think of that?” The response was, “well that was interesting but it doesn’t really apply to us as we like to have long runs.” Yikes!

I could give you countless other examples but it has always amazed me how you can show someone something that is totally relevant and helpful to them and still have it rejected. Even more surprising to me is that even if someone did have some interest it would be unlikely that they would grasp the strategic implications of such vast reductions in setup times. It just doesn’t fit their preconceived idea of things. They see it as an interesting one off kind of thing and fail to grasp the impact it would have on their ability to deliver more value to their customers, gain market share and grow if all their set ups could be reduced.

I guess the old saying of “you can lead a horse to water but you can’t make him drink” holds true for lean as well. It does, however, help to explain why so many companies struggle to get the results they should be getting with lean.

FacebookTweetLinkedInPrintComment

Written by:

Art Byrne

About Art Byrne

Retired CEO, The Wiremold Company

Author, The Lean Turnaround and The Lean Turnaround Action Guide

Best known as the CEO who led an aggressive lean conversion that increased The Wiremold Company’s enterprise value by 2,467% in just under ten years, Art is the author of the best-selling books The Lean Turnaround and The Lean Turnaround Action Guide. His lean journey began with his first general manager’s job at General Electric Company in January 1982. Later, as group executive of Danaher Corporation, Art worked with Shingijutsu Global Consulting from Nagoya, Japan, all ex-Toyota Corporation experts, to initiate lean at Danaher. 

During his career, the Shingo Institute recognized Art with two awards: it bestowed the Shingo Prize to Wiremold in 1999 while he was CEO and the Shingo Publication Award to The Lean Turnaround Action Guide in 2018. Art is also a member of the AME (American Association of Manufacturing Excellence) Hall of Fame and the IndustryWeek magazine Manufacturing Hall of Fame. In addition, he has written the popular “Ask Art” articles monthly since mid-2013, compiling more than 80 of them for LEI’s Lean Post. 

Leave a Comment Cancel reply

Your email address will not be published. Required fields are marked *

Related

image showing ownership and responsibility at an organization

Executive Leadership

What Matters When Giving — or Accepting — the Gift of Lean Thinking and Practice

Article by Josh Howell

Podcast graphic image with repeating icons and microphones

Executive Leadership

The History of the Term “Lean”: a Conversation with Jim Womack and John Krafcik

Podcast by James (Jim) Womack, PhD and John Krafcik

various healthcare professionals using AI

Executive Leadership

AI’s Impact on Healthcare: A Conversation with Dr. Jackie Gerhart and Dr. Christopher Longhurst

Podcast by Jackie Gerhart, MD, Christopher Longhurst, MD and Matthew Savas

Related books

The Gold Mine (Audio CD)

The Gold Mine (Audio CD)

by Freddy Ballé and Michael Ballé

The Gold Mine Trilogy 4 Book Set

The Gold Mine Trilogy 4 Book Set

by Freddy Ballé and Michael Ballé

Related events

September 06, 2024 | Coach-Led Online Course

Hoshin Kanri

Learn more

September 24, 2024 | Coach-Led Online Course

Management Systems

Learn more

Explore topics

Executive Leadership graphic icon Executive Leadership
Operations graphic icon Operations

Stay up to date with the latest events, subscribe today.

Subscribe
  • Privacy Policy
  • Sitemap
  • LinkedIn
  • Twitter
  • YouTube
  • Instagram
  • Facebook

©Copyright 2000-2024 Lean Enterprise Institute, Inc. All rights reserved.
Lean Enterprise Institute, the leaper image, and stick figure are registered trademarks of Lean Enterprise Institute, Inc.

This website uses cookies to improve your experience. We'll assume you're ok with this, but you can opt-out if you wish. Learn More. ACCEPT
Privacy & Cookies Policy

Privacy Overview

This website uses cookies to improve your experience while you navigate through the website. Out of these cookies, the cookies that are categorized as necessary are stored on your browser as they are essential for the working of basic functionalities of the website. We also use third-party cookies that help us analyze and understand how you use this website. These cookies will be stored in your browser only with your consent. You also have the option to opt-out of these cookies. But opting out of some of these cookies may have an effect on your browsing experience.
Necessary
Always Enabled
Necessary cookies are absolutely essential for the website to function properly. This category only includes cookies that ensures basic functionalities and security features of the website. These cookies do not store any personal information.
Non-necessary
Any cookies that may not be particularly necessary for the website to function and is used specifically to collect user personal data via analytics, ads, other embedded contents are termed as non-necessary cookies. It is mandatory to procure user consent prior to running these cookies on your website.
SAVE & ACCEPT