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Leadership Q&A: Michael Hoseus, a former general manager at Toyota

By Chet Marchwinski

November 8, 2012

From the LEI senior executive series on lean leadership: In this interview from LEI's Executive Series on Lean Leadership, Michael Hoseus, who developed his lean skills rising through the management ranks at Toyota Motor Manufacturing, offers advice on how to create and sustain a problem-solving culture. Learn about the online workshop “Creating a Sustainable Lean Culture” with Mike Hoseus.  

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Leadership Q&A: Michael Hoseus, a former general manager at Toyota

From the LEI senior executive series on Lean Leadership

A co-author with Jeffrey Liker of the Shingo Research Award-winning book Toyota Culture, Michael Hoseus developed his lean skills at Toyota Motor Manufacturing, KY, where he worked at the general manager level in both Production and Human Resources. LEI recently talked to him about how the role of a leader changes in creating a lean culture.

LEI: Most managers and executives would support the idea of supporting continuous improvement and creating a problem solving culture. So why are these ideas so hard to operationalize?

Hoseus: Establishing CI and problem solving as a culture is a challenge for most companies because they are missing key concepts such as establishing a clear purpose and then roles and responsibilities for everyone in their organization, including leadership and human resources to connect to that purpose. This means, often times changing the roles of the managers and executives as well as entire departments and it’s not easy without committed and knowledgeable leaders.

LEI:What are the most common mistakes that you see companies make when trying to implement lean?

Hoseus: The most common mistakes in implementing lean is thinking that lean is a set of tools to be delegated to some lean champions to implement while the leaders go about running the business as usual. A lean transformation means that lean must be connected to the business need of the organization and change the way the organization does business. Most organizations are still operating in their functional “silos” and lean requires them to be operating “horizontally” across the “supply chain to customer” value stream.

LEI: You’ve said that most organizations focus on the product value stream and ignore the “people” value stream. What’s the people value stream?

Hoseus: Most companies involved in lean have now done value-stream mapping, which “maps” the process of adding value the product or service they provide from start to finish, “across” their organization. This includes identifying gaps to the standard, adding value, and pinpointing where waste occurs. The people value stream challenges the organization to look at their people the same way. It’s a great tool. Is there a standard for what type of people we hire or promote into our organizations, is there a standard process to how they are hired, orientated, trained, engaged in standardized work and problem solving? Finally, is there a standard process for evaluating, compensating, and communicating? After these standards are set, then the organization can begin the PDCA [plan-do-check-act] process of identifying gaps and making improvements.

LEI: Can you give readers some practical advice about what they and their teams may have to change about their current roles and behaviors in order to lead a lean transformation?

Hoseus: The role of leaders does change in a lean organization. In the traditional organization, leaders are successful and rewarded for getting results, directing, and delegating to people and often “fire fighting” with quick solutions to problems. In a lean organization, the focus shifts from the results to the process needed to get the results and from directing people to coaching and facilitating. This coaching and facilitating is toward building both personal and organizational capability around PDCA and problem solving.

LEI: Can you give us a taste of what problems your Transformation Summit learning session, “The Role of Leadership in Creating a Sustainable Lean Culture,” will help managers solve?

Hoseus: An inspired and engaged leadership team is vital to a successful lean implementation. This workshop will focus on how leaders can address the “Top Ten” barriers that organizations face in their lean transformations. An example of one of these barriers is using lean as first and foremost and way to cut costs. This strategy can backfire and actually sub-optimize your lean efforts. Here’s the complete list of barriers that we’ll tackle:

1. Using lean in order to cut costs
2. Leaders “delegating lean” to others
3. Not identifying the proper roles for “everyone” in the organization
4. Too much focus on “lean tools”
5. Not involving HR properly
6. Processes and improvements not connected
7. Using the wrong measures for success
8. Not being proactive in preparing for a financial crisis
9. Not linking lean to the “daily work”
10. Not objectively assessing their current progress

Take a deeper dive into lean culture change …

  • See more candid interviews from the Lean Leadership Series about the role of leaders in a lean transformation
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  • Toyota Culture: The Heart and Soul of the Toyota Way
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Chet Marchwinski

About Chet Marchwinski

Chet has been a humble, unwashed scribe of the lean continuous improvement movement since books by Taiichi Ohno and Shigeo Shingo first hit North America in the 1980s. At LEI, he contributes to content creation, marketing, public relations, and social media. Previously, he also wrote case studies on lean management implementations in…

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